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Ep. 17 - Compass Community Center in Lake Worth Beach, Florida Offers A Wide Variety Of Services To The LGBTQ+ Community In South Florida.

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What does it take to build a life dedicated to the mental health and well-being of the LGBTQ community? Get inspired by Catherine Doe's incredible journey, which led her to become the Mental Health Director at Compass Community Center in Lake Worth Beach, Florida. From the early days of the Stop AIDS Project to the comprehensive support center Compass is today, Catherine shares her path and passion. Hear how a transformative experience with a counselor set her on a course to make mental health support accessible for LGBTQ individuals, and learn about the various programs Compass offers to support LGBTQ youth, families, and veterans. 

In this episode, we dive into the essential role of community and accurate information in overcoming stigma. Catherine discusses the importance of partnerships with organizations like NAMI and CAN Community Health, and how these collaborations ensure inclusive care for their clients. Discover the life-saving impact of having a single accepting adult in the lives of LGBTQ youth, and the compounded stigma that often deters individuals from seeking much-needed help. By the end of our conversation, you'll understand how to be a visible ally and support LGBTQ mental health in your own community. Join us for a deeply insightful and empowering discussion that highlights the power of support and acceptance.

Scott McLean:

Welcome to the podcast. I'm Scott McLean. My guest today is Catherine Doe. Catherine is the Mental Health Director for Compass Community Center in Lake Worth Beach, florida. As a matter of fact, that's where we're doing this interview today, and it's a wonderful facility. How are you, catherine?

Cathrine Doe:

I'm doing great.

Scott McLean:

Excellent. Thank you for having me up here.

Cathrine Doe:

Thank you so much for having me on your podcast.

Scott McLean:

It's my pleasure. We met at the VA wellness outreach at Palm Beach State College. You did about a three minute interview with me. You sat down in that chaos and you were wonderful and I said I got to get her on a full episode because you're a wealth of information.

Cathrine Doe:

I'm so happy to be here. Thank you so much.

Scott McLean:

No problem, all right. So tell us about Compass Community Center and how it came about, how long it's been around, etc.

Cathrine Doe:

Absolutely so. Compass Community Center. We are the LGBTQ community center for Palm Beach County and our mission is to engage, empower and enrich the lives of the LGBTQ community and people affected by HIV. So you asked about the origins of Compass. Compass actually started as the Stop AIDS Project during the earlier days of the HIV epidemic, when people were organizing more to provide end-of-life care, because that's where we were, we didn't have the treatment that's available today. So what we now know, as Compass started as a stop-AIDS project then and then eventually morphed into what we now have, is the Compass Community Center. When the needs started changing, thank goodness, people started living long, healthy, full lives. Due to the current treatment that we have for HIV, we also realized we need community support and especially the LGBTQ community, who was part of the Stop AIDS Project, you know, really recognized the need for a broader base of support for all ages, for the community as a whole. So now we have, we continue that mission of serving the LGBTQ plus community and people affected by HIV.

Scott McLean:

So Compass has been around for.

Cathrine Doe:

Over 35 years yeah.

Scott McLean:

So tell us about your journey and how you became involved with Compass.

Cathrine Doe:

Sure. So I actually moved here. I've lived all over the country, grew up in Texas, lived in Massachusetts, california, alabama and then here. So when I lived in Alabama, I actually knew about Compass. Even then, my partner's from this area and we were, you know, looking out where to move to and decided to move here. And I had heard about Compass just because you know, my partner told me about it and I jokingly said, maybe when we move to Florida, compass will need to hire a therapist and they'll hire me. You know I was I mean, I was joking but not joking, but I didn't really think how likely that would be. But lo and behold, when I got here and I, you know, went through the hoops that are required to practice in a new state and all that kind of thing, the timing lined up just right and I was ready to apply for jobs and I'd been stalking the Compass website, of course, for a long time seeing when are they going to be hiring? Are they going to be hiring? Will they hire me? So you know I applied and you know I'm here five years later and you know, love it.

Cathrine Doe:

I call myself the luckiest therapist in Palm Beach County. I love the work that I get to do. I love the clients that I get to work with. I love the community of coworkers that I get to be a part of here.

Cathrine Doe:

One of the reasons I wanted to work here in the first place was and really why I wanted to become a therapist in the first place. When I was in my 20s and I needed support, I found my own first counselor and he changed my life, obviously for the better. I really can't imagine what my life would be like, you know, it's just it's so much better for having known him and worked with him and you know he, he helped me learn so many things that now are kind of core to how I am in the world. Um, so he kind of put me on the trajectory I hadn't.

Cathrine Doe:

I had not in college, I had not been interested in psychology. Like that wasn't really on my radar. I was doing other things and after that experience, you know it really shifted my perspective and I wanted to be able to do that work. I wanted to be able to offer to my communities, you know, that opportunity for healing and growth and like kind of set a trajectory, you know, for the lives that we really want. So, as I moved around the country, you know, and at times needed to find new therapists. You know it's a journey, you know we're not usually done, you know absolutely.

Cathrine Doe:

So we complete one piece of work and like, okay, we'll go back out and do our lives for a while, Okay, it's ready, now I'm ready to do the next piece of work. So, living in different places, sometimes it was hard to find a therapist who could really kind of understand where I was coming from as a person within the LGBTQ community. And so, you know, sometimes I needed to do some education of my own therapist to just like to have enough understanding of where I was coming from. And so I know that it can be a challenge sometimes and that's not the only reason that it can be, you know. But I know a lot of times folks struggle to find a good match for a therapist because it's hard, Like there's so many people out there, how do you find the person who's going to be a really good fit for you?

Cathrine Doe:

So, long story short, I really wanted to be able to work with the LGBTQ community, so I had gone back to grad school. That was part of my focus when I chose a school, when I did my studies, when I had independent work that I could do, and I had also focused some even in undergrad, actually at the intersection of folks living with HIV, folks who are LGBTQ plus and first generation immigrants and asylum seekers. So even before I knew I was going to be interested in psychology, I already had like a real passion and commitment to working within the community, especially at that intersection. And it's interesting now with my job, that ended up being like kind of just like when everything kind of came together like magic, you know, like this is exactly where I need to be. Thank you, universe, like this is it. I really get to be working with folks.

Cathrine Doe:

You know, not everyone is at that overlay of all three living lived experiences, but I really focus on working with people living with HIV here under the Ryan White program and many folks who I work with are also LGBTQ or are also first generation immigrants or sometimes all three lived experiences and so that's been really meaningful for me to be able to kind of carry that I don't know the word like to.

Cathrine Doe:

It's kind of carry that I don't know the word like to. It's kind of at the core for me for whatever reason you know, like that's been. Those have been areas of focus for me and community that I really care about and want to serve and I'm also lucky that within our Compass community and within our mental health program we also have been able to serve veterans. So if someone, for whatever reason, if they're already active at the VA, sometimes they'll access mental health services there. If they're active with Compass, sometimes they'll seek services with us. So I've been able to work also with veterans. I work with adults here. We also have a youth mental health program, so I'm talking about all adults.

Scott McLean:

So you found your purpose. Yes, yeah, not a lot of people get to do that.

Cathrine Doe:

It's a yes, it's a real gift for me to be able to come to work every day and like really feel rooted and grounded in what I get to do. Like people say, you know, the best job is when you don't feel like you're working you know, and I feel like kind of like podcasting.

Cathrine Doe:

Exactly, you know you find something that brings you fulfillment. It's not easy every day, you know, but podcasting, I'm sure, is not easy every day either. There's challenges in every area that we'll choose, but it's not even a question of is it worth it. It's like that's not the question. This is what I want to do, this is what I feel like. This is where my contribution is, at least for this period of my life, and we're always learning and growing and doing new things.

Scott McLean:

So Compass is a 501 designation.

Cathrine Doe:

Yes, yeah, we're a nonprofit. 501.

Scott McLean:

Give them money.

Cathrine Doe:

Exactly, we are always accepting donations.

Scott McLean:

I say that to everybody I interview. I say give them money If this is something that you think is good to give money, to give them money Even if you don't give them money. Could you tell us some of the key programs and services that are offered by Compass?

Cathrine Doe:

Absolutely so. Compass has services for all ages, from youth to elders and everyone in between, and we, like I said before, we focus on serving the LGBTQ plus community and people affected by HIV. And within all of our programs, like we talked about in the mini episode, every one of our programs, veterans are welcome, and I'll highlight a few that might be of particular interest a little bit later. So I'll kind of go through the age range. How about so, for youth, we have a youth program with social support groups as well as mental health services, and we also have a group for parents, so parents of LGBTQ youth, and so they meet twice a month and the youth groups meet three times a week, plus the mental health individual and group therapy, and all of that's free of charge. And the parent group actually formed because, you know, parents were hanging out while their youth were in the youth group and they started talking with each other and, you know, really recognized that they wanted to also have that support for themselves, you know, and share resources, share stories, you know, so that formalized out of parents who wanted to support each other and now can provide a welcome and a place for other parents who are maybe, you know, maybe their youth just came out to them and they're like what do I do? I'm not yet a proud parent, like the group title is, but how can I get there, or what information can I get, at least to better understand my child, because I want them to be healthy and safe. So we also have a group for younger trans youths, age 4 to 11, and their families. So they come once a month and the youth can just play together, basically, and then the parents and family members similarly can have a space to support each other and have questions and answer it or find resources and then kind of moving up the age group we have for the 18 to 29 year olds, which I'm hopeful that some veterans who are listening today might be interested, there's a social support group that meets once a week and it's really that's a vibrant group. They meet every Thursday fun activities, different topics for discussion. They have a Discord server that they're on all week long, you know, with each other, and that's for LGBTQ plus folks for 18 to 29. We also have support groups running throughout the week. So these are peer led support groups.

Cathrine Doe:

So, whether they're related to gender identity, there are three different groups. One's a gender support group. One's a non-binary support group. One's for transmasculine support group. We have a coming out support group. We have four different support groups for people living with HIV with different focuses. One's facilitated in Spanish, called Grupo Libertad. One is called the multicultural support group. It's for anyone of any background to come and find support together. There's a newly diagnosed support group, also for a kind of like younger age group, even if they're not newly diagnosed, if they want to come and talk to somebody. Or newly diagnosed at any age, kind of in the last few years Diagnosed. Thank you, newly diagnosed with HIV.

Scott McLean:

Okay.

Cathrine Doe:

Yeah, yeah, because there's a lot of things to learn about treatment options, about accessing resources and making the mental adjustment. Because there's so much stigma around HIV, there's so much fear that a lot of times has seeped in there to get accurate information and really be able to take in the understanding that HIV is no longer a death sentence. Now people one pill once a day. People can remain undetectable which means in a blood test the HIV is actually undetectable and live long, happy and healthy lives, full lives, doing everything that they had planned to do before. So that can take time and adjustment and you know there's a real need for support during that time as well.

Cathrine Doe:

And getting information and navigating things that people you know didn't have to navigate before, like disclosure to loved ones or someone that they're dating. You know how to navigate those kinds of things and deal with the stigma that still exists in society, even though that stigma is really based on misinformation. And you know, I know people who have both type two diabetes and HIV and they say that it's easier to deal with the HIV than the diabetes because you know it's a lot more involved. You know and that's not to say that everyone will feel the same way. But you know, it kind of puts it into perspective that, like now we can, we can lump it under a different umbrella. It's a chronic illness that people will need to take medication for, you know, ongoing, and it's manageable.

Scott McLean:

What other programs do you have?

Cathrine Doe:

Yeah, I wanted to go back to the support group. So those are the fear support groups specifically related to gender or sexual orientation. And then we also have we recently partnered with NAMI, the National Association for Mental Illness. They're hosting a group twice a month here. That's a LGBTQ plus mental health support group. So for anyone within the LGBTQ plus community who wants to come and talk peer to peer, you're just I'm dealing with this symptom, I'm dealing, I think I might have depression or I or I have been diagnosed with this or that, and this is this is what's going on with my life, anything related to mental health, or you know, maybe someone has never sought and they're like I just need some support. I'm really going through a hard time. Maybe this will be a good place for me to start. So that's a really exciting partnership and that's here on site. So it's in a friendly location, you know, familiar location. That's a support group that's recently started. We also recently partnered with Dr Sam at the VA and Dr Pete. So we're hosting, or they're hosting, here at Compass some veteran socials. So if that's interesting to anyone listening, please reach out to Dr Sam and we hope to see you here at Compass and then moving up also in age groups, so actually for even younger folks, we have free and confidential HIV testing and education. So if anyone works at or is involved in the community, community organizations and you want to have testing at your site or at your workplace, we can actually come to your site and do HIV testing there as well, as you can come here during our working hours for testing. We also have a partnership with CAN Community Health, which is a health provider. They have a clinic right here on site so you can get free STI testing, low cost treatment or they accept insurance as well as HIV care, and 10% of their patient slots are dedicated to the LGBTQ plus community. I know people have care already at the VA, but you know, for their friends and loved ones who may be interested in that as well, it's a really great option with fabulous providers here. It's a game changer really to be able to come into an affirming environment.

Cathrine Doe:

Coffee Clutch is a group that meets twice a month, monday mornings 10 to 12. And that is for, as the facilitators call it, our mature LGBTQ plus community Allies are welcome. Of course, there's coffee and conversation for the first hour and then a presentation on a different topic. So that's a really fun group, especially for folks who you know have their Monday mornings free and want to come and just be, you know, with other people, and I know several veterans who come to that group already, so you won't be the only one. We also, within our mental health program, we offer mental health therapy, and in English and Spanish. Services in Spanish are currently available within our white and white program only because that's with me, and then services are provided for the community in English.

Cathrine Doe:

We have group and individual.

Cathrine Doe:

One of the groups that we offer is a grief support group and that's another group where I have directly worked with veterans at Compass.

Cathrine Doe:

We run that on kind of a rolling basis basis several times a year. It's an eight-week group that we offer because there's always a need, people are always experiencing loss, whether that's a recent loss or whether that's a loss more in the distant past, and someone's kind of come to a point where they're ready to talk about that with other people in a new way, or it's come up fresh for one reason or another. So that's something to keep on the radar. Also is the grief support group and that's facilitated either by myself or an intern therapist and I hear from folks coming to the group how helpful it is to hear other people describing their own experience and realizing that they're not alone in that. And you know, even when the loss may on the surface seem quite different, the felt experience is often so similar and finding someone they can relate to or you know more people in the group who who are speaking their heart even before they've found the words, has been really powerful. It's amazing and it's free. Yes.

Scott McLean:

That's a big thing, it's amazing. And it's free. Yes, that's a big thing, it's free. What's stopping you right, other than yourself? Do you have any more programs?

Cathrine Doe:

We also have a case management program that's also under the Ryan White HIV and AIDS care program on the national level. So we offer here case medical and non-medical case management. So folks who are either entering care for the first time or who have been in care for 30 years you know it doesn't matter can get that support here, and there's other providers in the county as well who do that. So helping, you know, coordinate the care, whether that's medical care, access to mental health care, access to glasses, you know things, a wide variety of needs. We also host some community events throughout the year. So in addition to the you know community events that we have here at compass that I mentioned, we also have things like yoga sesh here at the compass once a month, also free. It's a place, a place where you can come, also for your broader wellness. Occasionally we have clothing swaps and just fun things. So keep your eye on you know. If you want to sign up for our email list, that's on our website. It's a good way to stay up to date.

Cathrine Doe:

But in addition to those kind of ongoing smaller events at the at the center, we also host Palm Beach Pride every March. So I hope to see everyone who's listening at the next Palm Beach Pride. It's really fun. It's just a like celebratory affirming environment for all ages. Our pride is unique in that it's like people call it, the family-friendly pride. You know, it's just. You see people of all ages there and you know parents feeling comfortable bringing their kids and an environment where everybody can celebrate together and just be there enjoying good music, enjoying each other, seeing vendors the VA is often has a table there as well.

Scott McLean:

That's in March.

Cathrine Doe:

Yes, that's in March. We celebrate here in March instead of June, which is National and International Pride Month, because June is so hot. Why don't we have our outdoor pride in March? Thank, you. South Florida.

Scott McLean:

People need to remember that Exactly If you were confused when she said March, I was too, until she said June.

Cathrine Doe:

Yes.

Scott McLean:

And it clicked.

Cathrine Doe:

Yeah, so imagine being out there this weekend, hot yeah. And there are other South Port of Pride prides in June, so we can go to those in June and we can go to ours in March, and it all works out. We also have the largest display of the Names Memorial Quilt right here at Compass every year in December. So around World AIDS Day, december 1st, we have the quilt on display for two weeks and if folks know of loved ones who have a panel that's been made in their honor, they can get in contact with us, particularly with Dylan Brooks, who's the director of HIV prevention and education who coordinates the whole event. They can actually request that that quilt be present for the display. So every year we put a call out to the community do you have any specific panels that you want us to request? And we'll request that quilt to be here as part of our display.

Cathrine Doe:

And we've had quite a number of community members request panels for friends and loved ones so that they can be present here, and also that's inspired other folks who have lost loved ones to HIV and AIDS in the past to make their own panels and submit them. Last year there were at least two new panels created by Compass community members to send in and now they are going to be sewn into quilts. Each quilt has eight panels on it so they'll be added to the Names Memorial quilt. Starting this upcoming year. They'll be part of the displayames Memorial Quilt. You know, starting in this upcoming year they'll be part of the display. So it is a powerful experience. I really encourage folks. Even if you've seen the quilt display in the past, every year it's different and we are different, just like we don't step in the same river twice, like we're different every day, you know.

Cathrine Doe:

Every year when I I've had the privilege to be able to be a part of putting it up here, and then, when I walk in, when everything's complete, you know lighting has changed. Every year it hits me differently Every year. Something else like really gets in there, so I'll never stop going. It's a very powerful experience to honor people over the. You know over the last decades.

Scott McLean:

It's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing you're doing here. I just want to touch on people that are unhoused in the LGBTQ community. We kind of touched on that before we came on. Can you kind of give us some, maybe statistics and what you know about that?

Cathrine Doe:

and how it's different.

Cathrine Doe:

Yeah, yeah, you know, one of the first things I think about when we talk about the experience of homelessness or folks who are unhoused is that, especially when we think about youth who are unhoused, when folks have gone out to better understand what's happening here, the results are that about half of unhoused youth are LGBTQ plus youth and often the reason is because they've lost the support of their families and so they don't have anywhere to go. I mean, if you think about being a youth and was nowhere to go, like there's a, there's a lot of impacts, obviously on the logistical level of not, you know, needing a safe place to sleep, needing access to food, you know, needing to be able to go to school, whether that's high school, whether that's wanting to be able to go to college or access other kinds of resources, having someone for guidance. You know there's just so many things that change when you are in that position. So unfortunately, that is a more common experience among LGBTQ youth than among straight and cisgender youth, and particularly LGBTQ youth of color, so BIPOC youth. So you know there are also, luckily, protective factors.

Cathrine Doe:

There's, all you know, we look at especially for mental health among LGBTQ youth.

Cathrine Doe:

You know it's kind of been shown time and time again.

Cathrine Doe:

If there is one adult that they know they can really count on, who's really accepting, who they can go to when they need support whether that's a teacher, a coach, another trusted adult in the community the difference that that makes it cuts the rate of attempted suicide in half.

Cathrine Doe:

So adults out there who are listening, who you know, you may be that person for a youth in your community, and you know our youth program here, the youth staff. I have no doubt that they are that person for those youth, for many youth. So you know and thinking about folks into adulthood as well, you know, if someone doesn't have the safety net to go back to for whatever reason whether they've lost that due to LGBTQ plus identity or for a different reason just increases the likelihood that if times get really tough and right now in South Florida times are really tough for a lot of people, especially related to housing If you don't have a backup form of support, it's a lot more likely that you're going to end up unhoused at some point, whether that's living in a car. If you don't have a car, you know living outside and now with current legislation coming in making that illegal to sleep outside in the parks, you know things like that, but just so many layers add up.

Scott McLean:

What are some of the biggest challenges you've faced, or compasses faced, in getting out to the community or the community coming to you?

Cathrine Doe:

So some of the biggest challenges we've faced? This is a good question. I bet if you ask different people here, you get different answers and in different departments you might get different answers. But I would say some of the biggest challenges are related to stigma that continues, related to LGBTQ plus lived experience or whether it's related to HIV. You know it's a barrier for people to even walk in the door here, especially if they've come up, you know, surrounded by the belief that there's something wrong with them if they're LGBTQ plus or that people will be afraid of them. If they're living with HIV, it's even harder. I'd say the stigma that's again like the stigma in both cases. It's based on misinformation, but it still exists and still very strong. So I think the stigma related to both of those things is definitely a challenge in terms of people accessing services with us and with mental health in particular.

Cathrine Doe:

There's an added layer of stigma right about even seeking support at all, like what does it mean if I need to go see a therapist? What does it mean about me? Is there something wrong with me? Does it mean I'm weak? You know all the things that come up and you know I am here to tell you. No, it doesn't mean any of those things. Seeking support is really a sign of strength and, like we have shared already, you know I've personally benefited and I've seen so many people just really grow and flourish by seeking support. And we are human beings, we are literally wired to need each other, so there's nothing wrong with needing that level of support. But it is a barrier, especially for folks seeking support for the first time. You know I have a lot of conversations with people seeking support for the first time and what does it mean? What does it not mean? What is it? What is therapy? You know it's a chance to come and be open with someone and get the support that you need.

Scott McLean:

Whatever?

Cathrine Doe:

your goals are. That's our goal.

Scott McLean:

It takes more strength to be vulnerable than it does to white knuckle it.

Cathrine Doe:

Yep, absolutely, that's what I've learned.

Scott McLean:

Yeah, it takes more strength to be vulnerable, to open yourself up and say you know what, I don't care, yeah, I just just. I need help and the stigma is like a brick wall. Even I had to get over that, but when you do, you'll be better for it and you'll feel better about it. That's, that's my experience. So, finally, let me ask you what advice would you give the listeners who may be struggling with either this issue what we've just talked about or who want to support the LGBTQ friends and family that they're around?

Cathrine Doe:

Great question. So yeah, in terms of accessing whether it's mental health support, community support, walking in the door to see what's even available I would say something very similar that that takes courage and strength and you have it within you, you know. Just move your feet. Stop thinking about it and move your feet, or pick up the phone, whatever that is, whether that's calling Compass to connect for support, whether that's calling a loved one to connect for some support, move your feet, pick up the phone. We all need it.

Cathrine Doe:

If it's for folks who are wanting to support their loved ones who are LGBTQ plus or living with HIV, I would say make yourself visible as a safe person Because you may not know, there are very likely people in your life who are LGBTQ plus or who are living with HIV and you don't know it yet. You know, because people all we all have our own pace, we all have our own process, you know, and and being visible to other people. So, if you are an ally or you want to be an ally to these communities, to our communities, make yourself visible as a safe person. Speak up if something, if something's being said, you know that reinforces those stigmas or judgments. You know. Seek out information for yourself. You know what does LGBTQ plus mean? We didn't even go over that. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer. Often the acronym is longer, including LGBTQIA plus plus. So intersex asexual. Just educate yourself about what is even in the spectrum of LGBTQ plus experience, and remember that these are human experiences. We're all human and this is under the big umbrella of human experience.

Cathrine Doe:

So, educating yourself and also being aware about what's going on in our state, how is it impacting folks, staying curious and just like with any bias that seeps in. You know, we live in a world that is giving us messages all the time. Some of them are positive, some of them are judgmental and negative, and it's our job to recognize oh wow, I had that reaction. Where'd that come from? Whether that's related to racism, whether that's related to sexism, whether that's related to transphobia or homophobia, whatever, whatever, wherever that came from, we are living in a world where those messages will get in and affect us, and so our job now is to recognize oh wow, huh, that might not be true. Let me reposition myself, let me get a little bit more information, let me just recognize when that happens and think about what might be true instead and realign myself so that my actions are going to be based on love, not on bias that I didn't even choose.

Scott McLean:

Self-awareness.

Cathrine Doe:

Self-awareness, yeah. And then if someone comes to you sharing their identity or sharing their HIV status, being a welcoming, loving person, so if you've already gotten that information, that's going to be a lot easier, right? If you've already made yourself visible as a safe person, it's going to make it easier for that person to share with you. And if you've educated yourself, it's going to be easier to be like OK, great, you know. Have you heard about Compass? You?

Cathrine Doe:

know and send them our way, have you heard about Compass? There you go and send them our way. There are services here that are available to be of support to just about everybody.

Scott McLean:

So that's a great lead-in. How can people get? In touch with Compass Website phone number Yep, Give us all of it.

Cathrine Doe:

Awesome, yes, please. So you can find us on our website at Compass C-O-M-P-A-S-S LGBTQcom, and you'll find information about all of our services and events there. You can also just call us 561-533-9699. That's the number for all of us, and you can ask to speak with me, catherine, about mental health services, or my colleague, nika. Nika processes all the requests for referrals. So even if you're not seeking services directly at Compass, but you want to connect with a therapist in the community who is going to be LGBTQ affirming or affirming for folks living with HIV, you can call us and we'll help you find somebody under your insurance If you're uninsured. What does that look like? What are some community resources, whether that's your Compass or elsewhere? Call Nika, she's the one who helps with that.

Scott McLean:

So well again, Catherine, thank you very much for being on the podcast.

Cathrine Doe:

Thank you, scott, I was looking forward to this actually. Me too.

Scott McLean:

I love the facility. I love what you guys are doing. God bless you guys. You're offering something that's very special.

Cathrine Doe:

It's special, thank you.

Scott McLean:

And, as I always say to my listeners, give them money, give them money. You can find that on their website.

Cathrine Doe:

That's right.

Scott McLean:

How to give them money. Well, we built another bridge today. If you like this podcast, share it. If you're on a podcast platform and you're listening to this, give us a like, give us five stars, give us a comment. We're always open to it. If you want to get in touch with the podcast, you can email me at vetsconnectionpodcast at gmailcom. If you want to check out the website, it's wwwvetsconnectpodcastcom. And I think that's it. I think we're done.

Cathrine Doe:

Thank you so much, Scott. This has been really fun.

Scott McLean:

Oh no, this was great. This was great and well. As I say at the end of every episode, you will hear me next Monday.

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