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Ep. 22 - Combating Hunger and Homelessness: Maura Plante & The Living Hungry Mission

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Have you ever wondered how communities can rise together to combat hunger and homelessness? Join us for a compelling conversation with Maura Plante, visionary founder and CEO of Living Hungry, a charity making waves in Delray Beach, Florida. Maura opens up about her journey and mission to address critical issues like poverty, malnutrition, and the hurdles faced by the homeless, especially children, veterans, and the chronically ill. You’ll hear poignant stories from the heart of the pandemic, where Maura and her team provided essential nourishment and hope to veterans in temporary housing.

We dive deep into the power of community support and the extraordinary impact it has on reducing homelessness among veterans. Discover how building relationships, volunteer efforts, and generous restaurant donations have played pivotal roles. Maura also shares the groundbreaking healthy food prescription program, developed with Tufts University experts, which has shown incredible promise in managing chronic diseases through nutrition. This initiative not only improves health outcomes but also reflects the unwavering dedication of Maura and her team to empower communities.

Explore the broader initiatives of Living Hungry that extend beyond immediate food relief. From educating teens and adults on healthy eating habits to advocating for legislative support for "food as medicine" programs, Maura’s holistic approach is truly transformative. She highlights collaborative efforts with chefs, dietitians, and culinary experts to create medically tailored meals and shares the joy of experimenting with healthy recipes. Tune in for valuable resources and insights into Mara's impactful work through the Health and Nutrition Coalition, and get inspired by the resounding power of compassion and community support.

Scott McLean:

Welcome to the podcast. I'm Scott McLean. My guest today is Mara Plant. Mara is the founder and CEO of Living Hungry, located in Delray Beach, Florida. How you doing, Mara?

Maura Plante:

I'm great. It's so good to be with you, Scott.

Scott McLean:

I'm glad to have you, glad to have you. So Mara's kind of on location right now. Right, although the foundation is in Delray Beach, mara is where. I'm in the mountains of maine ah yep nice and cool up there right now right tiny little town of lakes and mountains. Yeah, it's getting cool 68 degrees oh sunny today yeah, glorious, that's perfect one of those last summer days yeah, yeah. So, mara, let's get right into it. What's the mission of Living Hungry?

Maura Plante:

Living Hungry is a charity born of the belief that everyone has a potential worth nourishing. So we tackle poverty, setbacks and malnutrition because they harm our homeless children, our homeless veterans, our potential teens that are struggling chronically ill neighbors. And so we're on a mission to design nutrition products and logistical supply solutions and programs to help end hunger, but also heal and reverse disease chronic diseases in which case we feel like we really are unleashing this hidden genius, ingenuity and kindness in all Americans. That's what we call it Yep, living hungry.

Scott McLean:

Can you give us an overview of the services and programs you might offer the veterans?

Maura Plante:

Oh, we love our veteran. Yeah, so I am a feeder and I've been feeding people for I don't know, this is my social workers that there was this rush to get everyone into hotels to get off the street because it was going to. You know, covid was going to run around and go get the homeless people first and they were vulnerable, and so we put them all in hotels. But the VA only had funding for housing, not for food. And, as anybody knows, if you're stuck in a house and no food, you know you got to go out. So go get some buddy, go get some food.

Maura Plante:

So we, um, we worked with the VA and stand down house, which is a local charity that managed the housing section, case management, and we fed them all. We fed them all. Could be 20, could be 60. And we fed them all. We fed them all. Could be 20, could be 60. We ended up from one hotel, three hotels. We did it for three and a half years. Wow, yeah, we did meals five days a week and a set of groceries for the weekend.

Scott McLean:

Thank you for that. Yeah, thank you for that. How long have you been operating?

Maura Plante:

Well, I started Living Hungry in 2017. How long have you been operating? Well, I started Living Hungry in 2017. And I actually had started a charity before that called the Pan Florida Challenge, where we were feeding kids weekend bags of food that I designed to meet really good nutrition standards. But I was realizing that if you're a homeless kid and you're not sleeping, you're really having challenges with your immune system and your focus. And so my weekend bag of food I just didn't feel like it was up to the top potential that you know it needed to be in order for our kids to sit in classes and really listen and learn and they need to. So I redesigned, I came out with a new charity just for homeless kids, and we added fruits and vegetables and really started getting focusing in on teenagers.

Maura Plante:

So, after a few contracts like that with the county, with Palm Beach County, we did a lot of youth empowerment centers and police, athletic leagues and boys and girls clubs and we realized like, well, you can't just give them the produce.

Maura Plante:

You know, we had these kids that were opening the bags of groceries and they were like what is this long green thing? And it was a corn, and they had never opened and peeled a corn, shucked a corn at least out of, like you know. I think it was like eight out of 25. So we had a lot of work to do to bring them from that place to learning to cook and having cooking classes and chefs. And that's when I learned, that's how I learned that it's not just enough to provide the food. You need to teach them and get them excited, give them reasons why, about their health and whatnot. So we took all of that learning and the county asked me to bring it upstream to their parents, to the diabetics, and so we also work with veterans in that way too, now reversing diabetes using food as medicine.

Scott McLean:

So you're located in Delray Beach, but you are South Florida-wide county-wide. How does that work?

Maura Plante:

My focus area is Palm Beach County. You know my roots are Palm Beach County and I'm one of the people that helped start the Homeless Coalition of Palm Beach County, like you know, 14, 15 years ago. So I just have been consistently dedicated in this area. But when we have crisis, hurricanes or pandemic, anything right, then I can activate networks of people that I've fed with for years and we feed pretty much coast to coast from above Lake Okeechobee all the way down to the rest of Florida. So we feed pretty much Florida wide, but mostly South Florida. There's 63 counties, I think, in Florida, so we're probably in about 12, the bottom 12.

Maura Plante:

And your encounters with veterans are often, unfortunately, or veterans, often unfortunately, or yes, well, what happened was, since I started working with the veterans, I got bit and I fell in love with them Really their stories, their lives, their perseverance, their tenacity. So who wouldn't want to come alongside and put your arm around a veteran who just needs a little help, some food for a couple of weeks, housing for a month or two in order to get back running? So we actually, as the team of us, we actually restored 300 families of veterans from the street to in houses.

Scott McLean:

So I was just going to ask you that what are some of the milestones and achievements you're most proud of, and I see that's one of them.

Maura Plante:

Yeah.

Scott McLean:

That's a great achievement.

Maura Plante:

Yeah, when we would see the kids come right. So you have two kids, three kids, nine kids, it doesn't matter. You know their parents serve. Sometimes both of them serve together and they're going through a rough spot, a fire or something like that. So being able to come alongside of them and give them food, they're always so appreciative, they never complain.

Scott McLean:

Yeah.

Maura Plante:

They really work hard to move themselves to the next place. Now, not everybody can and not everybody is, and some people need extra different or special and that's fine. It really was a joy. That was a major accomplishment had seen before. That is, you know, in our point in time count we would see like two, three hundred, two, fifty, two, fourteen, year after year, of homeless veterans, because it's a specific tag for veterans.

Maura Plante:

When you're doing this point in time count, which is once a year, 24 hours, they run around and count everybody who's homeless. So we started to see that number and it would stay the same, you know, all the time. It would be around 12 percent to 15% of our total homeless population. And so when we were able to actually pull them in, engage them in relationship and trust and the trust was built through the food actually we had a lot of fun with that and volunteers driving seven days a week, you know, bringing that food in there, restaurants donating, people cooking.

Maura Plante:

It was amazing, Just this love that was generated all around and appreciation for these veterans. And they did stay in and then they did, you know, get out. So I think that really was the major accomplishment because at the end we were really able to say look, when you offer them housing and you offer them food and they come in in a relationship of trust and they connect and they belong right, they can get into permanent housing. And we took 300, like I said, I think it was between three and 350 off the street and gave them a path back and they took it.

Scott McLean:

How do you assess and address the needs of individuals that come to you for help?

Maura Plante:

So right now, our focus is on the healthy food prescription, which is a. It's an intervention, it's a program that we invite people who have chronic disease, diabetes. We partner with clinics, we partner with the VA, we partner with community-based clinics and centers, and they're referring patients to us who are experiencing this chronic disease, stress life out of control and they're not able to manage their diabetes through their current pharmaceuticals or whatever alone. So they're referred to our program and we introduce them to a very specific food protocol that we developed with some nutrition scientists out of Tufts University Dr Dari Mozaffarian and Dr Kurt Hager and Dr Renata Misha. So they taught us, through this highly refined, detailed meta-analysis research study, exactly what to eat to reverse early death, heart attack and stroke. So what are we seeing now, scott? That's what we're seeing, isn't it?

Scott McLean:

Yeah, among our veterans.

Maura Plante:

So we have been really focused now on our healthy food prescription and getting it out to as many people as we can, and our research study with Tufts University. We're an IRB approved research study and what that means is you know it's an actual clinical study on humans of this protocol show that we delivered a negative 0.8 points, so a 0.8 drop in your A1Cs in six months time using food alone. Food is medicine.

Scott McLean:

And it went through an internal review board. That's important.

Maura Plante:

Yes, yeah, it was IRB approved. Yep, our principal investigator is Dari Mazzafarian and I'm the co-PI, and it took five years six years by the time the evaluation was complete.

Scott McLean:

That is a process.

Maura Plante:

Yeah, and we're really proud of the outcome and it's really one of the best in the nation. So we've actually partnered with the VA and West Palm Beach to support them to build a food as medicine program into their INET Innovation Network product development cycle. So we're going to see more and more food as medicine coming along for our veterans. We're really excited about that.

Scott McLean:

How do you engage with the local community, like the local veterans, in this case, to raise awareness that you're there?

Maura Plante:

Oh, we do it in a lot of ways. First of all, it's like through these clinics and through people who are referring us patients, right? So for that program you need to be diabetic and you need to have it out of control, but for other programs it's really referred through people who are getting services through the VA. They get their homeless support through the VA and so we're connected to them that way. But we're also a part of the Veterans Network, which is this great.

Maura Plante:

You know, once a month call, there's like 70, 80 charities that get around a table together once a month to share what we're all doing. And then there's also a veterans council that I attend and participate, that the Palm Beach County puts on, and then the United Way has the Mission United. So we actually, as charities that are supporting veterans, we actually table up, group up. We know each other, we handshake, you know behind the scenes, you know when we have special needs or issues or opportunities. So that's pretty much how I reach the veterans. But we know, you know, there's only like 75,000 veterans in the Palm Beach County VA catchment area and there's only like 55,000 that are showing up to get their health care. So the rest of them are out there at large. You know, and we do a lot of community work feeding, you know, in the Glades, riviera Beach, delray Beach, west Palm Beach, jupiter, yeah, so that we can reach as many people as we can. I do have some veterans in my healthy food prescription right now.

Scott McLean:

All right, and that's how you and I met. I was asked to be on the Palm Beach County Veterans Network and we met in a meeting with my foundation, one man, one, mike Foundation.

Maura Plante:

Yes.

Scott McLean:

Shameless plug.

Maura Plante:

I was so proud of you, the new kid, and hearing about your exciting, new, storytelling, very important venture that here I am right now, within two weeks, I was like sign me up, let's do it.

Scott McLean:

Yeah, it's an amazing.

Maura Plante:

Let's build your base.

Scott McLean:

I love that, yes, it's an amazing program and it's going to make a difference. I'm absolutely sure of that. What role do volunteers play in your organization?

Maura Plante:

Everything. So, other than myself, there's no one in living hungry. Everything that we do and last year we did $4 million worth of food during COVID we did $9 million worth of food During COVID we did $9 million worth of food this is literally being picked up, cooked, driven, distributed, dropped off by hundreds of volunteers, and what I do is I partner with other organizations, so I have organizations that are volunteering with us and then I have volunteers that actually drive and move through time and space and set up events and and get out there and meet my clients and coach them and counsel them and you mentioned a $4 million, $9 million, and that always leads to funding and resources, right?

Scott McLean:

So what are your main sources of funding?

Maura Plante:

so funding is funny in charities, right, because you have dollars and then you have other assets that have a lot of value that are not dollars and when you're time books.

Maura Plante:

That's what you're gonna see, yeah food, food is food, yep, and people's time is money yeah, time is money, food is, so people put food in my hands and I mean like semi-tractor, trailer loads worth because they like what I do helping people like veterans and homeless veterans. So people are always sticking me out. I get all kinds of things hygiene kits, clothes, shoes, new sneakers, socks so we have a list of about 12 things that we've equipped homeless children, teens, families with. So a lot of that is a lot of that dollars. That's on that P&L, like 990 is our donated items. But yeah, we actually have just a lot of donors. We have foundations to like us and give and we actually work with the county. The county funds the healthy food prescription for eight years running. You got to have varied sources, you know, and people really need to attach to what you're doing and there's some people that just really love the veterans and they, you know, they keep funding the meals and the care for our vets and their kids.

Scott McLean:

How do you measure the effectiveness and efficiency of your program?

Maura Plante:

Oh well, so you're talking to a 20-year corporate veteran in product development and product. You know life cycle and branding and marketing. So everything for me is that outcome right, just like our RERB research evaluation. So if you don't measure it, you got nothing. Like what did you do? Nothing right? We even say saying food is medicine If you didn't change the health outcome, like if the biomarkers didn't change, then it wasn't food is medicine, it was just food and that's fine. We need food. But no, for me, I'm always measuring the important critical things using, you know, validated tools, statistical measurements, and I came that way into nonprofits from business running PNLs and running technology. You know AB testing, all that stuff.

Scott McLean:

You know for a very long time.

Maura Plante:

So it's in my, it's in my genes. But I'm actually different from most charity people in that way, because I really take on the problem and then reverse engineer the solution. You know, is it a bag of food? Is it a distribution supply chain? Is it a network of volunteers? Like, what do we need to build? We're going to go build that. We put that together with other partners who are doing that, and then the whole thing lifts off.

Scott McLean:

Are there any current fundraising initiatives you have going on or opportunities for donors to get involved?

Maura Plante:

Yes, we welcome you. Ok, so you can go to Living Hungry wwwlivinghungryorg, and on that page you'll see the Donate tab and you can donate there. We also have a page where you can donate to the homeless children if you want to use your credit card and donate there. But also if you want to volunteer, we'll love it. You can register by submitting your email on that website. Today we don't have anything scheduled for fundraising. We're actually working on a symposium, the food is medicine symposium. It's our second annual Florida wide food is medicine symposium with the Florida health and nutrition coalition, which is a statewide coalition of agencies that I started with the heart association and the university of Florida to move food as medicine forward across the state. So anyway, that's my big event. But if you wanted to see that one and get some tickets to that, that is the health and nutrition coalitioncom, just health and nutrition coalitioncom.

Scott McLean:

And you have a donate button on your on your website.

Maura Plante:

I have a donate button.

Scott McLean:

And I always say this to the people that are listening when I interview all the nonprofits and they get. They know what I'm about to say give them money, give them your money. It's a great cause. We'll do give them your money. Go, hit that donate button.

Maura Plante:

Make you proud. Help some people that really need it, and then you'll be blessed by your donation.

Scott McLean:

Yes, what are your biggest challenges that you face with the veteran homeless population?

Maura Plante:

Yeah, well, I think that we have a lot of chronically ill people that are expecting pharmaceuticals to like heal, and they don't. They just deter and defer symptoms, right. So if you're outsourcing your health to the pharmaceutical model, it's just a perpetual situation where you end up with more swelling, more pain, more you know issues. So I think we also have especially in Palm Beach County. We have a major crisis with suicide, mental health, depression, lack of belonging, and so these are some of the areas that I constantly work in, very intentionally focused upon creating belonging, connectedness.

Maura Plante:

Healthy food, not just food, very healthy food, the right food in your body that can actually, you know right, the right healthy fats, and I mean like nuts and seeds, really good omegas, like no sugar. Let's get less wheat. Let's do more lean proteins, more veggies. If you think you're eating veggies and it's like a quarter of your plate, let's move it to half your plate. Now we got veggies. We need fiber and fats. With fiber and fats you can soothe a lot of that inflammation, that swelling, which you know is very, you know, upsetting for people.

Scott McLean:

That was your public service announcement. From mara plant, from living hungry, listen to her. Yeah, well, I, I, I I'm going to have to practice what I preach, so tonight I will have more vegetables, I probably.

Maura Plante:

Yeah, push, push your stuff off the plate. Let's get half the plate with your veggies, don't? We know what we need to do. But here's the interesting thing is that when and I'm not perfect no one eats perfect, right. So even if you eat like two meals that are great, let's just shoot for five veggies and fruits in a day, just five. You can do it. Two, three breakfast make a shake, you know, have some strawberries on top of whatever you got. You know, eat some celery, you're good. Let's just intentionally try to add a few more veggie pit stops in the day and you're actually going to do a lot better.

Maura Plante:

But the thing is, what I've witnessed is funny is, you know, with our healthy food prescription, we give everyone a giant set of food which includes, like these, farm fresh, amazing vegetables. We buy them from Cisco too, so it's chef quality. Like the lettuce, you can make a romaine lettuce. Like you can make three leaves, we'll make a whole Caesar salad. Like you get in a restaurant, you know, just like amazing. Well, when you get that quality and you get that good, and someone has recipes and tells you how to do it, like you can actually do it, and then the swelling comes up as the first thing, the pain comes down, the arthritis comes out. All of that stops. There's a stop, there is an end. It's very interesting when your body starts reacting to all the chemicals and toxins and everything. So once people feel that feeling of like, is this what I'm supposed to feel? I just reverse aged myself. Yes, that's what you're supposed to feel.

Scott McLean:

So, from your perspective, what changes or improvements do you think are necessary in the broader system to better support the homeless community, in this case, the veteran community, if there's?

Maura Plante:

a difference now. Our goal right now and we're working very hard and we have for two years, we have bills in the House and the Senate in Florida to do this is to get health care. To pay for food is medicine programs. So in other words, if health care can pay for, you know, tests and pharmaceuticals, they can also pay for a behavioral health intervention that uses food to help you change your lifestyle. Our big goal right now is to get health care you know, medicare, medicaid, the VA to start paying for food as medicine programs so people can actually get better and heal and be well again, be strong.

Scott McLean:

So how do you get feedback?

Maura Plante:

Right. So we're listening, we're partnering with and we let them know we love them and we literally show up and listen and have conversations and ask you know, how did you like it? What did you like, what didn't you like? What's your favorite? We'll do that twice next week. You know that kind of thing, some things you need to stretch right. So some people are like well, I don't like walnuts and I'm like, well, when people eat, four days a week, five ounces of walnuts, you reverse early death by 17%. That's what the research shows. So you can swap for pecans, almonds, but maybe try to eat some walnuts.

Scott McLean:

So you give them the science behind the food. Instead of saying, well, come on, just eat them, they're good for you, you give them the science behind it, right?

Maura Plante:

The science behind it. Plus, we give them yummy recipes, how to make it, and then we actually make it and we serve it to them and have them taste it together with each other. And then they all go home and make it and then come back and compare notes and show us pictures and we just celebrate food and taking ourselves and our health in the right direction.

Scott McLean:

And that's not every day.

Maura Plante:

We have bad days too, but yeah, is your kitchen like a test kitchen, like these recipes.

Scott McLean:

is that what it is? Like you say hey, I'm going to try this recipe. I'm going to try this recipe and this is good. Does that go on?

Maura Plante:

It would not be as good of a program if that's what exactly we were doing. No, I do play like that. I actually just made farro salad in two versions a cucumber version and a zucchini. I don't know. I'll have to tell you later which one's doing what.

Scott McLean:

I look forward to the answer.

Maura Plante:

Oh, that's doing what. I look forward to the answer. But no, we actually work with real chefs and real recipe writers and RDNs and people who are actually, you know, teaching cooking classes as a profession, so that they're bringing it's basically like evidence-based curriculum. Once again, are we measuring, are we changing the behaviors that we intend to, and so that's really what's happening there. It's a lot better than what I could do.

Scott McLean:

So how do you approach the chefs? Do they come to you or do you say, hey, I'm going to go into Best Buy? And I'm going to say, hey, this is my foundation, this is what I do. This is, you know, kind of a wish list of what I need and for podcasting equipment and stuff that goes with that. Do you do that? It?

Maura Plante:

started cold. It did, but it's been, you know, eight, nine years now. So people know who I am and they refer each other to me and the chefs there's a network of chefs, there's like an association of chefs and they were taking different days of the week to feed the homeless vets and they were like volunteering. And we work with Cisco, and so chefs, they love people, they love to feed people, they love to serve people and so, yeah, we have a lot of great friends that that own like. There's one guy, ronnie mayo. He owns subculture at 17 restaurants. That's 17 chefs and he really we've worked together and started his own charity hospitality, helping hands together. So I think it's like everybody helps each other. But in fact, if I didn't stand in front of the homeless veterans and help, be the conduit to love them you know this is your day of the week, this is the time that you will deliver right then, then it can't happen.

Scott McLean:

But but being being that person is my, like, utter blessing so is it like a bobby flay competition, like, okay, chef, today we have kale, walnuts, uh, stewed tomatoes, we have some green beans, and then they kind of wonderful like this is the challenge, chef I think during COVID there was a lot of that.

Maura Plante:

How, how can you make another meal out of this radish grown in Florida?

Scott McLean:

Right, that's great.

Maura Plante:

No there was a lot of that repurposing of all kinds of things. But no, actually in the food is medicine space. It's really quite defined right, because we've got to accomplish things with what we're, what we're working with. So medically tailored meals or medically tailored groceries are built inside a protocol that supports health, best health, for you know these disease sets, you know so. But no, we do have fun and there's always food and food is medicine. Okay, there's always people bringing their little samples I'm vegan, I got this, you know. Faro salad, you know so. And shots, juice shots and shakes. Everybody loves to make the shakes and do it slightly differently and add their little flavor, you know, with some pineapple, which is bromelain, which is a great enzyme that helps you digest your food. So we're always putting in you know that the goodness.

Scott McLean:

All right. So what are some of the short term and long term goals for living hungry?

Maura Plante:

Well, short term, we have to really launch this healthy food prescription now that we cleared the hurdles of the research and now our outcomes are out, and so we are working hard with these national players, like the Validation Institute, which looks at other you know, for-profit companies that are delivering food as medicine and their outcomes, and we're the first nonprofit to be qualified to be validated by them. So we're working hard to get up and out. I call it, tip it over and spill it out, right. So if you know how to end diabetes and this is a national crisis and long term, like I said, we're working. We put together this healthy health and nutrition coalition for Florida. We're working with house reps, senators, to pass bills to get Medicaid to pay for this and get other parts of Florida activated.

Maura Plante:

It's really interesting because at the corners of health and hunger or food, you know these people haven't been talking with each other. You haven't had doctors talking with, like pantries, or you know, recipe makers or food delivery people, right. So we've got. We have a lot of work to build out that infrastructure, but long term, our vision is to have at least four parts of Florida. We mean, like you know, the Jacksonville to Alachua, orlando, broward and the Palm Beach County areas to have fully functioning food is, medicine programs up and running and bills passed so that we can pay them for their programs.

Scott McLean:

All right. Well, I think we covered a lot here. Is there anything that I forgot to ask you that you might want to mention? Is there anything before we roll out of this wonderful interview? This was a great interview.

Maura Plante:

Yeah, I just want to say like what a privilege and an honor it is to serve the veterans who have served first. And you know, I feed a lot of kids, a lot of people from a lot of different populations, a lot of new arrivals, immigrants, you know, returning citizens. Like we don't, we don't, you know, turn anyone away. I think food is the proxy for love away, and I think food is the proxy for love. And when we started really focusing on the veterans, an entire community activated and I mean people were calling me like my neighbor wants to drive on a Wednesday. You know it's like okay, all of these charities activated. We had food and more food. We won collaboration of the year award from nonprofits first, all because people joined hands in support of veterans, because we love you.

Scott McLean:

Well, as I say to a lot of the people that I work for, run and founded these nonprofits that work with veterans, you might not have served, but you're serving those who served, and to us, to veterans, that's everything. We appreciate you also.

Maura Plante:

It's an honor, it really is. You guys who stood on the front lines left your families behind, left everything you knew behind to go forward and protect us, so that we can come back and be there for you, absolutely.

Scott McLean:

Well, mara, thank you very much. Like I said, this was a wonderful interview. I appreciate your time taking time out of that beautiful weather up there in the mountains of Maine. I truly appreciate it, and I'm just going to do my podcast rollout and stand by and we'll talk when I go off. Yeah, okay, all right. Well, we built another bridge today. It was a bridge made of bread healthy bread and eat your vegetables. By the way, that's an order. Be sure to listen to the end of the podcast. The very end is a very informative PSA for veterans and their families and if you liked what you heard, share it, tell a friend about it, tell a veteran about it, tell a veteran's family member about it.

Scott McLean:

My website, wwwvetsconnectpodcastcom, is full of resources that you can go to. It's everybody that I've interviewed and I've covered a wide range of nonprofits covering a wide range of topics. And also go to my shameless plug coming up my onemanonemikefoundationorg, and see what I'm doing over there. It's going to be a great journey on this. It's very innovative, it's outside the box, and I learned that in the nonprofit world, outside the box is actually good because it gives the veterans more options. So go check that out, onemanonemikefoundationorg. And again, mara, give us your website one more time.

Maura Plante:

It's wwwlivinghungryorg and also thehealthandnutritioncoalitioncom.

Scott McLean:

And there you have it. Well, as I always say at this point in the podcast, you'll hear me, and a new episode next Monday.

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